Over Choreographed Dance Competition Routines? STOP!

Before dance studios get back in gear with their fall season of choreographing competition routines, why not stop for a second and think of that old saying, less is more?

I love judging. It inspires me, it reminds me of how I felt when I stepped out onto that stage with my friends back in the day......performing my favorite routines. Granted they were clad with unitards and jazz boots with reverse French braids for a hairstyle, but still, very very fond memories. But may I just inquire - What ever happened to the choreography?

Dancers doing three solos, countless upon countless routines that look the same, packed with the same tricks, from the same studio, with the same dancers.

I am bewildered at how everything has a turn in second to the right only, everything begins with a right leg develop that is improperly aligned in the first place...? What happened to selling it, performing? Why do dance teachers pack so many tricks into a 3 minute solo or routine where the dancer has no time to actually follow through with character and emote? What happened to the story line? Less is more! Don't choreograph 3 solos per girl. One is hard enough to perfect....is it the money?

Don't do a popular song. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel! Giving a beginning ballet student a black swan solo and still keeping the fouettes? We ALL know the most popular songs that run around at least 10 times a weekend at a comp, why do people think it's a good idea that they do it as well? Don't you think judges want to see something new and innovative?

I challenge studio choreographers to do one turn to the right, one turn to the left, and no develope pitch. If I've seen it once, I know that you can do it. Don't put it in routines 6 or 7 times. It's a moot point.

The point I have to validate these thoughts is this; I have been choreographing independently for comp routines for 7 years. Last year I choreographed a piece that had a left double pirouette. No turns in second, no pitches, no anything. It won first overall at every comp. They won so much, not because of the choreography, but for the lack of tricks, and the simplicity and emotion that the dancers gave once they stepped out on stage.

Tricks tricks tricks tricks tricks. Why? A dancer that can connect to the audience is rare now a days, simply because the teacher has packed so much choreography, this is all it is: turn down stage, pitch, step, right turn combo, step catch turn, step leap in second, floor slam to the knees, step turn to the right, step, kick to the right, develop pitch again. Am I the only one that thinks this is crazy?

But THEN, there is that piece that comes along where there is more emphasis on character, style, phrasing to the music, really going for it. Those solos or groups might not be up to par technically as the 15 second turn studios, but they understand what it is to be in character.

I just wonder what is going on In studio teachers' heads sometimes, thinking that it's a good idea to put pitches in a routine where the dancer is clearly not ready, thinking that if the beginning level dancer TRIES for 6 pirrouettes and hop the entire time in half releve...that the dancer would win a first for trying. It's not how it works, and everyone knows that, don't they? It just doesn't make sense to me!

More creativity, push boundaries, do SOMETHING that is exhilarating that all people might not love, but consists of story, substance, and choreography that follows the music.

AND DON'T copy SYTYCD. GEEZ! I don't even watch that show, and I see people copying routines from that. MAN OH MAN, what is this choreography world coming to?

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Judging at Dance Competitions

Thank you, Erin, for posting this blog! I have been a judge now for the past 2 years and have come to some of the same conclusions. I have come to realize that in the competition world, technique and performance quality generally take a back seat to flashy tricks and over choreographed routines.

That is not to say there aren't any good dancers or choreographers on the circuit. Every now and then I see that one dancer or studio that completely wows me. This past week I judged  a week long National event, and there were two schools that blew me out of the water. One dancer in particular almost moved me to tears, and it was very special to watch her perform. I also find that the competitions with educational components like workshops and master classes attract some more well-rounded studios looking to broaden their horizons even further.

Now, that being said, the majority of routines I have seen over the years had the same exact formula  - the dance begins slowly and dramatically with a poorly placed developpe  - hip up, ribs out and foot not pointed. The dance then becomes rather frantic as the performer tries to pack in a series of tricks such as side leaps, multiple pirouettes and then the oh so dreaded a la second turns. If the dancer were advanced enough to do all these tricks properly, fine. Wow me! But, if the dancer is not technically skilled or strong enough, leave it out! Jumps MUST have straight legs, turns MUST be on a high releve, and a la second turns cannot travel halfway across the stage. And my pet peeve is a chasse that steps with the heel first - I see that WAY more often than I should, even from advanced dancers with pretty solid technique. Teachers are not stressing the importance of connecting and transitional steps.

Then there's the issue of presence and emotion. I really dislike the genre of lyrical because most of the dancers are too young to connect emotionally to the message they are trying to convey. It is just wrong to have a child dancing to a song about complex and mature issues of love or death - the result is a facial expression that looks slightly confused and sometimes I even think constipated. I'd rather see a young dancer perform with a face full of joy - there's nothing more inspiring than a little one who is truly connecting with his or her movement. But that can only happen if the instructor is making sure to pick age appropriate music and create age appropriate choreography. A 10 year old should dance like a 10 year old.

Then there's the issue of SYTYCD. I think it's GREAT that this show has exposed dancers and choreographers to the genre we now call "Contemporary." Before the show it didn't really exist in the competition world or outside of places like New York and L.A. But at the same time, the show has created SYTYCD and Mia Michaels wannabes who think it's okay to copy what they see on TV. So that show kind of a double edged sword, but in the end I think it has done more good than harm to the dance community. I go crazy when I see young dancers doing quirky contemporary choreography infused with a little modern and postmodern influence. That's something I never imaged would cross over into the competition world. The competition culture is slowly beginning to change, and I think if we remain patient we'll begin to see more and more focus on artistry in the coming years.

In the end, I absolutely LOVE judging because I get the opportunity to share my knowledge of dance with people who could really benefit from a little outside perspective. As the "ballet" judge, I think I really bring something unique to the table and offer a point of view they would otherwise not get. It is my hope that the instructors are listening to the commentary we provide - I work really hard to make meaningful critiques that will help their students be the best dancers they can be.

Look out for my Nationals blog which I hope to post sometime next week!

judging at Dance Competitions

I would like to pipe in here too.   I am so happy to see someone post about this.  I see some really talented kids out there dancing (or barely dancing) going from trick to trick without any transitions that resemble dance, add the skimpy costume and the horrible "sexy" faces.

But the problem really starts with the competitions and the judges.  When judges really start taking points off for age unapproprite moves and clothing, the teachers will still do it.

Competitions need to reward for age appropriate and well choreographed pieces with more dance and focus on musicality and true emotion.  Not allow skimpy costumes on dancers under 16 and mark down numbers that don't dance.

It really is in the hands of the competitions.

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Judging at competitions

Thank you!!!! I wholeheartedly agree. The kids see these numbers reap rewards time after time and believe that this is what they need to do to fair well at competition.

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finally

Thank you, Erin and Lindsay.  I grew up competing, and I was raised that what was important was technique and performance, not tricks.  I actually remember one instance in particular where girl walked to the center of stage, developed her leg into second, and just stood there...for 12 counts.  The dancers and I would get discouraged when we would see some crazy turn or jump sequence, and our director would always tell us that we were being silly.  He was right.  Judges rewarded us, not the tricksters.  

That's why I am surprised that so many years later, dance teachers still haven't learned.  Maybe they need to see that in the professional world, it's not all about the height of your leg.  When was the last time you saw a concert performance with a series 36 fouettes?  There are classical variations that do not have any pirouettes at all, and yet when they are done with great artistry and dexterity, they can bring down the house.

Thanks again for voicing every thought I have when I watch competitions.  I hope dance teachers read this and PAY ATTENTION!!

Thank you

I can add little to what you said, but I do watch SYTYCD, but I tell my students that this is still not what you will see at professional performances.

I make these same comments, over and over, on critique tapes to teachers and I can hear them listening to them saying, "That #Q&!*^ has no clue!" I am sure of it.

But try to do that at a real audition for a real show and you go nowhere.

Now, let us get on the subject of inappropriate dances. That irks me even more!

I AGREE!!!

I miss the days of dance being a performance art and encouraging proper technique, performance, musicality, originality. THANK YOU for this article!!

SYTYCD

I wouldn't say that ALL dance genres on SYTYCD are useless in the professional world. Surely you won't see a musical theater piece performed barefoot (a la Moses Supposes choreographed by Tyce), however, many of the styles on the show are completely relevant. New contemporary repertoire companies are popping up all over the place and hip-hop is a great skill to have for commercial work.  And with all the recent popularity of ballroom dance (Burn the Floor is headed to Broadway), the foxtrot and other partner dances are also great to have in your back pocket. What it comes down to is that as dancers, the more skills you acquire the longer and better career you'll have.

OVER CHOREOGRAPHED DANCE COMPETITIONS

Erin
I love that you speak the truth and just put it out there for
discussion.  No holding back from Erin!!! Love it!!!

From the non dancer / studio business director / owner Elizabeth @ The Dance Zone

P.S.
We love your work and your commitment to challenging our dancers with your ever changing
and amazing choreography!!!
See you in August!!!

true, but...

I agree Lindsay.  The more you know, the better.  A dancer needs to be well rounded and ready for anything.  I re read all the posts and didn't see where someone said that SYTYCD is useless in the professional world.  I may have missed it, or taken a different implication from something.  I thought people were talking about relying on tricks instead of focusing on the whole picture. In Erin's post [when she was talking about SYTYCD], I thought she meant that people were trying to copy something they saw on television, instead of choreographing and performing something that they mean.

You got it!

I wasn't really talking about SYTYCD and it's effect on dance world.  That is a whole different topic.  All i'm saying is: Dance teachers need to stop copying routines from SYTYCD and putting them on te competition stage.

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@Courtney

My response was to nanajanet who said "I do watch SYTYCD, but I tell my students that this is still not what you will see at professional performances." Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought she was making the argument that emulating SYTYCD is pointless because you don't see that stuff in the professional world. I think I interpreted it that way because many of the other judges I meet at competitions lack any knowledge of contemporary and modern dance. It's kind of surprising, actually. I made a comment about Mark Morris and everyone looked at me like I had three heads.

Wow!

I know, it is pretty surprising when you judge next to someone that, well, isn't really that much of a professional in the dance world.  That's all i'm going to say, and now i'm going to shut my mouth :)

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Hehe

I know the feeling, especially since I've studied dance history in the college setting. That's why I think my perspective is so unique in the industry - I give students (and the teachers!) information that they are obviously not getting at their studio or taking the time to research themselves. For example, one piece I saw last week reminded me of "Tensile Involvement" by Alwin Nikolais, and I told them to watch it on Youtube to open their minds even further to the myriad of choreographic possibilities. I bet the teacher was probably like, what is this girl talking about?

In my experiences it seems like many of the other judges are strictly musical theater or hip-hop people, and aren't too familiar with anything under the modern dance umbrella. I find that interesting because after high school most of these kids are going to attend college and that's what they'll be doing in school - modern and contemporary. I think it would be prudent for the competitions to find judges who are also familiar with those genres as well.

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Over choreographed routines...

THANK YOU!!  I say this over and over, but the problem I have is we are in a small town in Alabama.  We go to competitions in Atlanta, Birmingham, etc.  Even though I preach this day in and day out to my staff and students....this stuff is all that wins in the south!!!  It is constantly rewarded, so our kids are wanting the same things and just don't get it because it happens every, single time.  Any ideas?? It's so disappointing when technique and presentation are nudged out by 20 turns in second, an aerial or backhandspring and some inverted scorpion..HELP!!!

Comps

Look into different competitions? Judging is obviously very subjective, but at the same time, maybe just change the venue and see the quality of the judging, the comments, the tape.  I have judged with people that i have overheards speak on tape for an act: " good luck...............two and a half minutes later.......great job" I seriously can't believe it when i come across judges like that, and it happens frequently i'm sure.  In any case, remind the students of how many professional jobs have a turn in second, or a leg extension - i think i have done at most, a triple pirrouette in my dance career.  Emphasis is placed on expression, selling a choreographer's routine, supporting an artist, selling a dance company.  Just reiterate those facts would be my best suggestion.  hope this helps! erin www.erinlamont.com

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@Lindsay

Ah, I'm sorry!  I didn't realize where your response was pointing.  I apologize, and thanks for clearing it up.

Well done on the Tensile Involvement reference.  More people need to take Dance History.  This does, however, bring up an interesting issue.  My college licensed TI for our Spring '03 performance.  Tito (from the Nikolais company)  personally set it on us.  However, we were told that it would NOT be included on our performance video, due to copyright issue, etc.  I was surprised to see it on You Tube, where anyone can watch for free, and possibly (I hope not) steal.  But, I guess that's a topic for another blog...

Really? ????

Where to start with this one.
Kinda annoyed.

First off with the SYTYCD topic. About copying SYTYCD.  Personnaly I dont watch the show((due to the fact they put Ballywood on there before Tap) but I did watch the performances from this week after I heard all the buzz. Now while the Woman's Work piece was one of the most beautiful routines from that show...it wasn't the first moving routine I have seen to that song......but when we  see it this year everyone will be OOhOOH they copied SYTYCD. While on that, the Zombie hip hop has been done a few time also...maybe not as well, but it has been done. So
1 not every dance to a song heard on  SYTYCD is a copy.
2 If you are going put out routines that are a copy lets go ahead and get rid of the whole Musical Theater category. Because truthfully everyone of those have been performed before.(think about it)

Now on to the tricks vs choreography argument.
Actually judges having a trick vs choreography argument poses a bigger issue. Judges have preferences!!!

Now let me start by saying that I run a highly successful competitive team so this isnt a sour grapes post. I also judge for numerous companies and am a guest choreographer for several schools.

While I personally prefer ( and my studio is known for)moving and push the limits choreography, we are talking about what maybe 15% of the competition scene. Right, out of a whole weekend of judging maybe 30 routines a day. So what about the other 85%? So does the studio that worked their butts off on executing those tricks correctly just get shafted?

Here is the problem. We(judges) are NOT paid for an opinion!!!
We are paid for a professional evaluation. If I wanted opinions I would hand out a survey.

Follow... i dont like the color green. In my opinion it is an ugly color. So does that mean every green costume i judge should get a lower score....no.  I should look at the green costume and give it a professional evaluation.

Same goes for the choreography preference. Again we are a choreography heavy company but several times at competition I see a routine with tricks executed well that gets over looked for these "judge preferences".

Also how in the same post do you put that you judge and you don't  like certain things then ask the question of why someone would do 3 solos?

You Just answered your own question. If i have a certain advanced  soloist that lets say can do the tricks well and i give her one solo with alot of these tricks....if you are judging she wont score well. So Since she is more than capable we also give her a choreography heavy solo to make sure we please  your "judge preferences" and while we are at it lets do a musical theater one just in case we a have a Broadway type panel.

Next over used songs. Let it go. Again for the other 85% of the routines at competition not all of them are done for you! Not for overalls, not for judges choice, or platinums its done for the kids!!! Guessing  from your stance you proably work with the best in the studios when you work for them but that is probably a small percentage of their team.
 For the other members of the team they just want something to be excited about. lets take the group of 9 year olds that aren't the best of the best that you probably work with, but they are part of the team and they pay their bills. I have an obligation to provide them with quality and something exciting. So they get to dance to......"PokerFace". Yes as a judge you sat through it 12 times in an hour, and we dont care. Put a smile on your face and look at "Little Suzy" going for it. She got her a big girl song and she don't care that 10 people in her category have the same song and neither should you.
There is a certain moment that choreographers that only work with the best kids miss out on. While going to limits of choreography and moving routines you dont get it sometimes. That moment when "Little Suzy" (who isnt 1st overall and probably not a platinum dancer) walks in to work with her studio teacher not guest choreographer and she finds out she or her group is dancing to PokerFace. I think you described in the O.P. as "fond memories" Her face at that moment is priceless. That's part of the magic and notice it didn't involve an award.

Now lets keep "Little Suzy" for the next little bit. "Little Suzy" is the one who probably hops in her turns, cant really do the leg spin right. again thats not in there for you! Little Suzy saw someone do that and she wants it in her dance....she wants to be like the people she sees on TV. Have ever heard Little Szuy's mom in the audience when she does that incorrect leg spin during PokerFace? She goes crazy like she won the lottery. Then she runs backstage scoops her up gives her a kiss and then takes her Olive Garden to celebrate. Again that's part of the magic.

So in closing leave Little Suzy, and her dance to PokerFace with the bad leg spin alone. Give the trickster studios their due. And stop the "judge preferences". I think one of the problems is that watching these shows with the elite of the elite dancing we forget about the 85%. Of course we want to see Travis Wall caliber dancers dancing Mia Micheals choreography but thats not the majority of the competition world. So make sure you drop these judge preferences and dont grill the majority of the competition scene in a blog , because if i was a trickster heavy studio and went into a comp next year and saw your name as a judge their would be a problem.

@Fancy Feet

I understand where you're coming from with your example about "Little Suzy" and as I judge I would never belittle or discourage a child who is working her hardest. It takes a lot of guts for most kids to get up there on stage, and I make sure to encourage them and applaud their bravery. However, it's not really "Little Suzy" that we're writing about...

We're talking about the students with massive amounts of talent and potential, the dancers who could go on to a professional career or at least a college conservatory program or Dance major. These dancers need to be given the tools and resources that will help them in their future careers. Spending the majority of practice time on a la second turns and 180 degree developpes, simply because it's popular or trendy, is not what's going to help these students prepare for the dance world beyond high school competitions.

As judges, it's our job to offer advice and critiques that the students may not be getting at their home studios. Because we don't see these kids on a daily basis, we may catch flaws that their teachers overlook. And we also offer a contextual point of view since many of us come directly from the professional dance world and know what's happening on professional stages throughout the country. Furthermore, dance is an art that is always changing and evolving. Why would we settle for the same old stuff when we could be pushing the boundaries and creating novel ways to move and emote? Although we're adjudicators, we're first and foremost artists, and we always expect more. I cannot ignore that simply because it's "magical" for students to perform poorly executed tricks. If that were the case, then I wouldn't be doing my job.

I have a B.F.A. in Dance from Barnard College of Columbia University in NYC, and I have been immersed in the professional dance scene since I was in middle school. And as a result I can offer this piece of advice: tricks are not what companies or college programs look for. Most companies out there look for really clean, solid technique with a huge focus on artistry. College programs, which are predominately modern based, look for students with the hunger to learn, challenge convention and break down boundaries through their art. Even the kids looking to break into Broadway and musical theater will not have to do tricks in an audition. In an audition, it's about picking up the choreography quickly and accurately, and connecting with the movement. In the commercial dance world, it's about having the right "look" or attitude. But very rarely is it about fouette turns, unless you're auditioning for a Principal position in a ballet company, in which case you'd have to do them in pointe shoes.

I know most of this dialogue is futile because the competition scene is very resistant to change. I just wish some teachers would at least listen to our point of view considering we really do know what we're talking about. I just want the best for these dancers, and want to see them succeed in dance after they graduate from high school.

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Over-Choreographed Competition Routines

I love this! It's so true! And thank you for having the courage to speak the truth, although many people may disagree with you! I'm not one of those people however! This is so on point! Thanks for writing this!

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